Quote from Woz :

For the OP: LFS also does suffer what I will call hot lap racers.

These are people that can lay down great hotlap time but fail to understand race rules or understand that the person that has a place on them might not be as fast.

Here we go blame the fast guys


here is a copy/paste of the top hotlappers.

Main Hotlap Rank: RANK INFO
Pos Racer Handicap Done
1 arrechee -0:49.645 18 C
2 Bawbag -0:49.055 18 C
3 Rocabiliz -0:48.375 18 C
4 DaveWS -0:47.485 18 C
5 Jonesy_ -0:43.465 18 C
6 Karolis[Lt] -0:40.965 18 C
7 M4ver1ck -0:36.575 18 C
8 Gargus -0:35.345 18 C
9 zeromussov -0:32.335 18 C
10 indie -0:27.875 18

they must all suck bad

or how about this list...

WR holders chart:
arrowkart4 106
arrechee 76
Karolis[Lt] 50
NickC 48
Daniel1992 36
_Mateusz_ 36
MarcG 35
510N3D 34
hugoluis 21
[DUcK] 19
Fox 2 18
Zanini 18
vincper 18
Bawbag 16
pecholobo 16
DaveWS 15
AutoPilot 13
Garfild12 12

Please tell me which ones cannot race , and if any racer on the track knows the lines best its usually not the one getting blueflagged ok.

Ive seen this point come up a lot of times regarding hotlappers and racing skills. Couldnt be further then the truth imo. The "hotlapper" is more likely to be on the limit and the inexeperienced blueflagged racer will more then likely be unable to anticipate manouvers made by the incoming pack. I`ve raced enough hotlappers to know that this "hot lap racers". condition is not the case as you present it to be.

The "hot lap racer" will be more likely intrested in tweaking and testing set, while racing. And in my opinion server that have midrace enable do so, so that other racers can join in the fun. (this is why they are racing on servers with no wind)
Getting blueflagged when you have joined mid race and trying to hold a racing line in sprint racing is very unsportman like.


Just thought id straighten that point out a little.

Anyways all thats needed is common sense and decency regardless of speed, skill, age, colour, sex, height, weight, looks, financial status, religous beliefs and vices. Oh and forum post count, amount of WR held, stats and hardware owned

*edit*
If you want an example of how the idiots getting blueflagged ruin sprint racing just got to ironhorseracing.*
If you want decent racing with racers, id recconmend Deadmenracing or R2R servers.

Last edited by Gener_AL (UK), Sat 16 Jan 2010, 17:34. Reason : adding examples

You know you're a long time LFS player if u can remember nothing appart from LFS

Quote from arrowkart4 :

nah havnt tried yet. im going away for a week now so will probs try then if i can be bothered.

Ok hotlappers here is your chance.... attack!!!!

Name: Alan Stables
Car Selection: XRT
Car Number: 19
Team: Team Inferno

very good

Many years ago, I was an avid player of snooker and the best advice ever given was about control the cue ball (white ball).

"Make the ball do the work, not you"

So instead of trying to play for shots with lots of side, screwback etc to get in the right position for the next shot. I learnt how to play using this philosophy. It helps for a more relaxed state of play.

The same applies to sim driving, as I noticed DucK applies the same principle "the less you have to do behind the wheel, the faster you will go " well almost the same, maybe not faster , but you will make less mistakes in my humble opinion.

Nice TBO server guys, and if anyone needs assistance admins are quite helpful and vigillant

well deserved blackman // old skool gets a new old skool student \o/

Quote from Bob Smith :

Sorry to say, but server owners can do whatever they want on their server. If you don't like it, don't go there.

Quote from boothy :

You're complaining about racing on a free server in a free racing game.....?

think positve guys

@Wandering , its like they say but to put it an more friendly way is to advise you to try other servers, and i know your probably to help posting this thread.

I agree though first impressions can weigh heavily on judgment and the more tolerent the attitude then the more likely that first experience or repeated experience of badly administrated servers, will influence potential customers etc etc.

pallu would be the perfect base for S3 ai, hes damn damn damn fast fair and quite a friendly chap.

tbh i think i beat pallu more then he has beat me, but then that just be my selective memory at work again... and if it is .. why did it not follow me home today..

:slap:

Quote from DoctorZoom :

i see dead games.

I see Flamebait and dead acounts.

Quote from Jonesy_ :

not being disrespective or anything, but with a moderators status, you shouldn't be making such an assumption of the value of still coming product.

In the end it's still the invidual consumer who makes the decision if the product the said consumer bought was value for his/hers money.

what

To the OP my advice buy S2 , Ignore the negativity you find here (use the ignore function) find a nice race server, i recommend deadmenracing and LR Racecenter and R2R TBO server, and most importantly have fun

Quote from DEVIL 007 :

Going abit offtopic Beky and Jeff

Not really, understanding the benefits for the entire userbase and of course for the application itself, and the work involved, the science involved. It's no simple feat to rewrite LFS code to become a true multithreaded application.

The more proffesionals discuss the differing mechanics within applications that are multithreaded, the better imo.

Ugh i keep getting an error trying to sign up.

** ok** solved

what no biggie smalls?
no black rob, mob deep, no roots manuva?
coca brothers aka smith'n'western?
G-Unit? Aesop Rock? Busta Rhymes?

ok ok just nit picking, just some names i did not see mentioned.

Well Fordman, its like this, every server wants some cool insim point automated admin system.
"Ohh you had a crash" "email it to us we review it."
Sorry to point you out beano but i frigging hate this ario stuff.
I dont want rotation, I want Pure LFS servers please, less spam (chat is not spam btw)
Im not bothered about TBP SPB sector times unless and pushing the car hard and then i will use LFSWorld when serious.(Ingame provides this info anyways)
Did i mention i hate autorotation.
What happened to the admin, you know the guy/gal keeping up moral and keeping idiots out and good vibes in.
Meanwhile the real racers keep getting rear ended, pushed off the track. But its ok i can email a report ........

Seriously being taken out doesnt bother me much though, as 99/100 I can smile as I know that the other racer is learning from his/her mistake.
You will still find that same experience fordman if you look around, people seem to be more true to themselves once peer pressure has worn off, and I still find myself helping other drivers with sets driving styles and lines.

Ahhhh but then come to the forums and all you see are childish posts/rants/ideas & the bullies and freaks.
There was once a time where you needed to really read a thread, now with my ignore list and the replies of what seems to be a selfish, arrogant and disposable minority. That seem to care about their own opinion, rather then the topic of the thread.
I have an idea i have long thought about, splitting the forum for under 21's and for over 21's

Hururattio made some very good points and voiced out most of my feelings about why some are disappearing, and shit... I have to agree with Tristan about CTRA.

I'm not one of these oldtimers that gets bored, or thinks dev pace is too
slow, Hell i have hardly driven the S2 Cars, still totally addicted to TBO.

Now usally i would just close my browser window at this point, and just walk away.
Today i thought otherwise.
*** edit *****

Just like to add though the forum has improved a little recently, some good threads.

Last edited by Gener_AL (UK), Fri 19 Jun 2009, 15:34.

Or maybe just aimlessly sailing into unchartered water?

Getting back the the question the topic presents, I would also have to say, as have others, that the FZ5 would be most seaworthy "ahar".

There is an old proverb that goes somthing like this;
"you can please some of the people, some of the time, but you can't please all of the people, all of the time"

Quote from Bob Smith :

You've clearly not been watching MTV's latest spin off tuning series, Pimp My Float.

Talking of spinning off lets hope this discussion doesnt drift into a cruise ship thread....

spotted this news if your still after a card http://www.fudzilla.com/index. ... amp;id=13730&Itemid=1

Quote from AtomAnt :

If you died today, do you believe that there would be a computer waiting for you in heaven or heck?

Nope due to a glitch in the sytem we have here on earth, most humans can never remember what or who they where before they exsisted, nor can we say that after death we have our memory in such a place.

Quote from AtomAnt :

Would you be happy dieing behind the wheel of this SIM?

No i dont think i would.

Quote from AtomAnt :

If indeed you did die behind your wheel , would you believe that God would finish the lap/ race for you?

Im sure he is busy, some things are not meant to be and some things happen regardless of divine intervention.

Quote from danowat :

I am planning on trying to go sub 58mins on my next 10k on 28th June, but I am not 100% sure I can hit it,

Be sure! My brother just ran a 10k event down in blackpool and put in a good time, but laughed when he said most of the blokes finishing above him were older and he pushed out 37min time, he is no spring chicken either.

He runs every other morning, and tries to keep in shape, I think he is nuts.
But if you enjoy it and its keeping you healthy, stick to your schedule and push it.

Quote from vari :

It was good as a whole though, thanks for everyone who have showed up along the way

I wasnt expecting much, but i was pleasantly surprised, clean fast and fun races. Who woulda thought dem dudes in IRC can drive

Looking forward to the next installment.

One thing i think is overlooked here, is the actual road surface?
This is quite important really, and perhaps this is also part of the puzzle that needs more attention?

Quote from MadCatX :

. I dont see how can this be of use in car simulation physics. It might provide a nice eye-candy, but at the end of the day you still need a physics engine which would run on any CPU regardless any extra HW equipment to maintain 100% compatibility.

This is why Larrabee for Intel and Fusion (bulldozer) AMD are so interesting.
Both, sorry all companines (lets not forget Nvidia for a moment here)
Intel and AMD have many cross liscencing patents on technology.
Nvidia are in trouble and in again my own personal opinion pushing physx and cuda as a means of existance in the future.

Quote from MadCatX :

Lots of people (including me) dont have even DX10 compilant GPU, so I dont think that everyone will have DX11 one as soon as in 2011.

Neither do I think that everyone will own DX11 card in 2011. But i do think Multicore CPU and X64 will be at the core of many home machines alongside DX9/10 Capable GPU.
The question i ask is why if you had a DX8+ engine plan for DX9 when the API from what i understand from 10 onwards is easier to expand upon for future revisions of the DirectX API. And from that logic apply that 10+ would be the next logical step.